Why are we asking the same old questions about silly
themes like this? The Bible has spoken clearly
that God has never ordained a
female as a Pastor. I've chosen to place
the article back up on my site just for clarification.
I shall never affirm female
preachers ever. The article defines it.
The question should always be,
what does the bible say. We have lost our
minds people. Listen to me brothers and sisters,
stop discussing issues with the
intention of changing what the Bible has already spoken
on. Is it clear to you? Well take the
time and read this article. Then make a sure
statement just as God would about the issue.
No Female Pastors! No!
No! No! Never! Never! Never!
Does this offend you, guess who does not
care about how you feel. Get a life in God and all
of your problems will dissipate.
Do not remain a constipated
Christian, stopped up with the lies of church people
that know not God. This is a serious issue
that we face today. The debate is over. If
you attend a church that has a female pastor,
you are following a lost women to
a burning hell. The great danger is that
you are most likely not saved
yourself. Now, read the article and get
with the Biblical Program. WOW! These words
are spoken like the man believes it!
Well, I do.
Pastor John E. Coleman
It Really Be True, A Female Pastor?"
By Pastor John E. Coleman
M.A. Anselm Bible Church RAM RADIO
Thanks for all of your kind thoughts concerning this
site. As you know the difference between the men and
the little guys is seen in their being able to tell
the truth about everything in the blessed word of God.
The Lord does not only call us to own up to the reality
that we men ought to loves our own wives just as Christ
loves the church by giving Himself for her; Ephesians
5:25; He also calls us to make the statement
concerning the issues of our day and age.
This issue that I address is not such a
hot one as many would argue. It is a biblical one. How
does one address the issue of female pastors? Lets try
opening up our bibles. I think that is a good start.
As an African American I must never go with the culture
flow. I have the book, brain and the ability to agree
with what God says on the issue. I must stand with those
that stand with the word of God. God has not changed,
nor will He ever change. The word of God states as much
in Hebrews 13:8 "Jesus
Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever."
Does God call women as Pastors? Don't ask
me! Ask that pastor that has a staff of female pastors.
He has got to know. He is the one that ordains them;
and claims that God agrees with his pronouncement. Surely
he made the switch by first going to the word of God,
right? We would expect that from the man of God Right?
Many men today attempt to lead in their church
by popularity poles. Many ministers ask; what is it
that the people desire of me in ministry? How can I
please the flock? What means can I use to lure in as
many people as I can in order to appease the masses
of inquiring minds. Hey! "Who's that lady?"
Wow! Such impact. Look at that flashy dress, the way
her scarf rest on the neckline! Look at the way the
other ladies listen to her. Oh girl; that works! See
how she commands attention of her audience. As a matter
of fact more ladies have given more especially when
she speaks. See how men seem to be intrigued by means
of her mannerisms. Man oh man; that must be the Holy
Spirit moving in her life? Could it be that God is doing
a new thing? Is it possible that the Lord is speaking
to us in this church making a mighty move in the lives
of many in this ministry for the benefit of women?
These are some of the question that you
must ask yourself. If the bible does not provide an
adequate answer; why are men across this country and
the world now ordaining women as pastors? Are you concerned?
Do you care? Is the practice of ordaining women biblical?
Would God affirm the actions of a man that ordains these
women? Are the men that perform the ordination called
of God? Do you have the right to question them at all?
Sure you do! Lets attempt to answer the question; "Can
It Really Be True?"
No! But why not? Simply because God is immutable.
This is the theological teaching that God can never
change in intent. There is an unchanging character and
a certain dependability of God. In other words; if God
states something through the unchanging inspirational
spoken and then written word; He cannot, He will not,
must not change in His intention on or for the behalf
of humans. Now; let us go to one text; 1st
Timothy 2:11-15. “Let a woman learn in quietness
with all subjection. 12 But I permit not a woman to
teach, nor to have dominion over a man, but to be in
quietness. 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve;
14 and Adam was not beguiled, but the woman being beguiled
hath fallen into transgression: 15 but she shall be
saved through her child-bearing, if they continue in
faith and love and sanctification with sobriety.
We need to take a little time here. If I were to place
these verses within the context of biblical exegesis
this would be a sample of how it would appear in sermon
context. Let me say this at this point; I only want
to allow you the reader the opportunity to see the evidence
from God’s perspective. See Minister Bill Watford’s
article on the “Friends Page” for a better
perspective on this issue of female pastors.
I have a way of turning people off. Thank
God for other men that have argued in a way that brings
peace. Please pray for me. I have a love for God’s
perspective. At times I come across so strong that others
misunderstand my approach. If I offend, please forgive
me. Now, back to the point.
Paul views the ladies role as astute, serious learner
as opposed to authoritarian teacher; 1st
Paul here and now discuses how the woman is to conduct
herself in the church.
We also see the essential instruction that he gave to
the church at Corinth; 1st
Cor. 14:34 & 35
We come to this verse after we have resolved that the
prior verses have been acceptable in our hearts. If
we cannot or have not taken in what we have heard up
to this point; there is no further need to continue.
Our difficulty level carries us to a higher plain as
we attempt to understand Paul's words.
This is not a request, rather Paul is demanding
that women be taught these principles.
11a "Quietly" hay-soo-khee'-ah
(as noun) stillness, --quietness, silence.
Why is this suggestion so difficult for women today
to fulfill? In light of what the bible teaches
on this matter; ought we not obey? What do you think
the consequence is in the lives of others that refuse
Instruction" Gk: manthano, man-than'-o; to learn
(in any way):--learn, understand.
receive instruction; See vivid examples; For Men &
Women; Acts 2:42
Women are addressed in this text: John
see examples of people; women seeking instruction and
the John text we see a woman who could have spoken back
but she recognized Jesus as the authority. Also see
the results of her listening to the spoken words of
Instruction was not only common place in the life of
the church, but it was highly respected as its results
were recognized by those that noted true Christian behavior.
Today's behavior cannot be called Christian.
So, what is the role of the woman in church in terms
of offering instruction?
What does this word mean? Gk. hoop-ot-ag-ay'
Submission to the authorized teachers of the
church. In that God has ordained this!
V.12 "I suffer not a woman to teach."
To become an authorized teacher of the church, a work
confined to the presbyters.
holds the idea of having authority over the man; or
the misuse of the position.
What was the problem in Ephesus in the first place:
" Many influential women were being influenced
or persuaded by the false teachers and were going from
house to house saying things they ought naught to; see;
1st Tim 5:13
That is why Paul tells them in V.11
to learn in submission. See; 1st
The role and its binding obligation towards all women
throughout lasting generations; V.13-15
lessons from Genesis as rendered from the Apostle Paul;
points to God divine intention in the creation process;
sites a universal principle.
states that there is a priority seen in creation that
runs throughout all of time.
a caution is placed upon us all as we read the following;
implication is that Eve was suited for the deception
in that Adam was not deceived at all.
the Genesis account in the third chapter defines it
to the letter.
renders the man responsible for the fall; Romans
confirmed the design of God by going to the woman who
was open for the deception.
vindication provided by a loving Father;
V.15 A difficult verse for many.
is an uncertainty as to the she - woman that is saved
by means of giving birth?
through childbearing. Work was laid upon the fallen
man; the pains of childbearing on the fallen woman.
apostle means here, that women will be saved in the
line of their duties, and that those duties are domestic
rather than public.
first woman was assured that her seed should bruise
the serpent's head. It was woman's glory that one of
her sex was chosen to be the mother of our Lord. Thus
through childbearing the Savior of all men comes into
they continue. Meaning Domestic duties will not save
unless to these are added the graces of a holy life.
As we conclude I must take time and further in comment
on the last verse. One has written;
"Suppose that it refers to the promise in Gen.
3:15, and means that the woman shall
be saved through, or by means of bearing a child, to
wit, the Messiah; and that the apostle means to sustain
the woman in her sorrows, and in her state of subordination
and inferiority, by referring to the honor which has
been put upon her by the fact that a woman gave birth
to the Messiah."
Wow! Pastor John, I did not expect all of
this. Well if God has changed his mind concerning the
rendering of the text I did not know it. I would ask
that any person that claims an immutable God could have
the capacity of changing his mind for the purpose of
sustaining a sinful group of individuals; please contact
us and provide the text of scripture. "Could It
Be True?" No way. Many of us have been lied to.
Those that have betrayed the Holy trust that God has
given to protect the sacredness of God's divine word
have abandoned God's truth for man's total debauched
mentality. Strong words? Not really. These are words
of God’s truth. All of God’s children must
step up to the plate and speak the truth in love. Only
then will the Church come to know the power of God’s
E. Coleman Master Of Arts Pastoral Ministries
Talbot Theological Seminary Biola University
Into The Word Ministries: RAM RADIO The Biblical Alternative